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Denny_hahn
Member Username: Denny_hahn
Post Number: 70 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 02:12 pm: |
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Dan, RVT uses an antigel additive that the supplier puts in the fuel in the winter.It costs us $0.0225 per gallon. We have also used an additive like Mark talked about. We park between six to eight buses outside. We have not had any problems with fuel gel. We have no experience with fuel heaters or bio diesel. Denny |
Mark_mitchell
Member Username: Mark_mitchell
Post Number: 24 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Wednesday, January 31, 2007 - 09:08 am: |
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Dan,CAT does use a winter additive but not because of fuel gel in buses. We use an additive to prevent fuel gel in our diesel fuel dispensers. Like RRTA, we have all indoor parking for our buses, however we have experienced problems in the past with our dispensers running real slow in very cold weather. Therefore, a few years ago we started using a Fleetguard product called FLEET-TECH Winter Conditioner Concentrate. What I really like about this product is that the concentrate comes in a 2 1/2 gallon container which treats a transport load. This makes it easy for my maintenance personnel to add this to the tank just prior to the load being dropped so the product gets splash blended in the tank. It is also way more economical than blended fuels when you figure the cost per gallon per load. We buy it from our local Cummins dealer. Mark |
Steve Myers
Member Username: Steve_myers
Post Number: 34 Registered: 08-2004
| Posted on Tuesday, January 30, 2007 - 01:14 pm: |
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Dan, RRTA does not use any winter additive. All of our buses are stored inside so fuel gel does not become an issue. When the bus is out on a route in cold weather I am not concerned about fuel gel since there is hot fuel being returned into the tank from the engine. This is also why we don't use any type of fuel heater. As for using an additive in bio-diesel, I don't think that fuel is any different than ULSD unless you are using a straight bio-diesel which would have to be heated. But a 5% or 10% blend would not need to be heated. Hope that helps, Steve |
Dan_russell
New member Username: Dan_russell
Post Number: 16 Registered: 05-2005
| Posted on Monday, January 29, 2007 - 04:13 pm: |
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I am looking for information about winter fuel. Who is or isn't using blended fuel in the winter? Why or why not! My understanding of "bio-diesel" it does not need to be blended in the winter. Is any T/A running fuel heaters on their units etc? Respectfully, Dan |